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For example, the grain industry, mining industry, steel industry, military industry, shipping industry, construction industry, land, mountains and rivers, etc. must be controlled by the state. These industries must be controlled by the state.
Otherwise, the chaos in the Spring and Autumn Period and the Warring States Period will come back, and the original intention of the great establishment will be lost.
At present, the salt and fertilizer industries, which are more important, should also be dominated by the state to protect the farmers who are still fragile and have not got rid of poverty, so that they can eat enough salt.
The industries that produce the strongest foreign trade, such as silk, tea and porcelain, are luxury and should be dominated by the state.
In order to earn real money from these luxury exports, we should also control the scale and output of production and avoid reckless expansion of production capacity after private intervention. On the one hand, it will lower prices and cause vicious competition, on the other hand, it will destroy grain production.
In catering, personal clothing, transportation leasing and other industries, there is no need to cling to it, but when the time is right, it will be open to private entry.
Just like in the Song Dynasty, catering, accommodation, transportation, leasing and other industries were also operated by the people, which proved to be developing well.
Not to mention catering, cooking began to rise in the Song Dynasty.
There is not much to say about the clothing industry, and there is really no state-owned necessity.
Accommodation is also harmful. The land is in charge of the country, and enough agricultural land is left to engage in business and industry.
Traffic leasing is quite special, but the emergence of "Didi Dadonkey" industry in big cities in Song Dynasty and the leasing of sedan chairs and rickshaws in later generations also prove the actual commercial demand and vitality of this piece.
At the end of Hongwu’s fourth year, Su Yonglin, the meeting of the State Council, heard the report of the Ministry of Finance and found that they had great interest in nationalizing almost all industries and listed a series of plans to try to nationalize them.
They believe that this will maximize the national development funds and at the same time safeguard the interests of the people to the maximum extent, and prevent profiteers and villains from hoarding and harming the people.
Some officials even put forward more extreme opinions on business, and put an end to profiteers in the state-run Ministry, so that business can completely become the auxiliary force of the revolution.
In the past dynasties, there were many famine years, profiteers hoarded and things made people miserable. In normal times, cheap rice could sell at sky-high prices. How many people died in this family?
Many officials of the Ministry of Finance have experienced this kind of thing, and they deeply hate it. They believe that the symbols and components of the old society of private commerce should be eliminated and the state-owned transformation should be completed 2.
Only by not making money can they really build their dream ideal society.
In this way, there is a fairly broad market in the Ministry of Finance, and many officials of the Ministry of Finance are trying to build a real heaven with this goal.
This is really an ideal society, which is pursued by revolutionaries and people with lofty ideals in past dynasties. The highest level of human society is … it is still impossible.
Su Yonglin also yearns for such an advanced social form, but he also knows that he can’t do it.
Now everyone can’t do everything together.
Of course, it is impossible to limit the state-owned enterprises. Su Yonglin’s meeting gave his own views and suggestions
"It’s like the eye belongs to the private industry, restaurants, restaurants and food stalls. The industry is very prosperous and full of vitality. It’s unnecessary for the state to create many people to like to eat. What should they get involved in?
You’re going to set up a state-run restaurant and open it all over the country in the future. What do you say about building a big catering standard and improving people’s ability to appreciate food … Is that necessary? I don’t think that’s necessary.
The country should focus on a higher level, depending on whether the people can eat enough, starve and freeze, and ensure that the situation in the past dynasties will not happen again.
Can you eat more special, such as changing the pattern? This is not what the state should tell you. What can you do in a restaurant? Is it necessary for some businesses in this life to close down without crowding out the benefits of a private enterprise? "
Everyone will look at me and I will look at you, but no one will object to Su Yonglin’s view.
Because this thing is really unnecessary, it must be state-owned, and it will not be difficult to get through because it is not state-owned, and there will be no huge problems because it is not state-owned.
It is the Ministry of Finance that has habitually come up with this idea out of the inertia of constantly promoting the development of state-owned economic policies in recent years, and because the current economic policies have brought great help to more and more financial expenditures, it is natural for everyone to think that the more state-owned the better.
But the economy is not that simple, and things can’t be done well by 100% state-owned enterprises.
After the meal, Su Yonglin went to the Water Ice Department.
"Cold drinks are a luxury now, whether it’s sugar or ice, it’s not easy to get things. Now it’s state-owned, but after we have a good day, the technology has risen, and there’s no need to be state-owned.
Can I have a cold drink and go to the national security? No, right? Since a long time ago, nobles have had cold drinks that people can’t eat, and we hope that this kind of food that was originally eaten by nobles can be eaten by the people.
That is to say, in the old days, Wang Xietang flew into the homes of ordinary people. Don’t always make some strange things that can only be enjoyed by princes and nobles, but ordinary people can’t get in touch with them. That’s called being divorced from the masses, and that’s humanization
So let’s set up a water ice department, which is exactly the right thing to oppose. We don’t want this kind of thing, that is, people can’t eat cold drinks, that is, the people.
It’s not unusual for technology to improve sugar and ice in the future, so open up the private sector. Who wants to run these? Let them run them. I think it’s good, don’t you think? "
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After listening to Su Yonglin’s remarks, the Ministry of Finance as a whole has no fierce opposition.
Because it does make sense.
Su Yonglin also felt ironic when he saw some plans of the Ministry of Finance.
"Don’t say people open a restaurant and a hotel. You have to run a state-owned company, even the vendors come out and set up a stall to sell breakfast and take food late at night. You have to run a state-owned company.
Set up a stall to sell some tea to passers-by to quench their thirst and cool off their summer heat. You want state-run old ladies or housewives to come out and set up stalls to do some sewing and mending. You also want state-run ones.
Even if the state-owned enterprises give people a hat of exploitation and oppression … Many of them set up their own stalls, or their own family members come and help them oppress themselves. "
Su Yonglin shook his head and sighed repeatedly.
"I’ve learned that these stall vendors are all farmers who have enough labor at home to set up a stall and do some small business to fill their homes. What will they think if they suddenly don’t let them do this if they want to live a good life?
Even if these are not considered, we must eliminate private businesses. Can we meet the actual needs of the people after that? It’s like these stalls selling breakfast and midnight snacks or big bowls of tea and water.
Now it is blooming everywhere, and there are many state-owned enterprises that can meet the needs of the people. Can we have enough manpower to replace them? What should we do if the demand of the people is too great and we can’t meet it? "
Officials of the Ministry of Finance, look at me. I’ll look at you. No one has answered Su Yonglin’s question.
I really don’t know how to answer.
With the expansion of the state-owned economy and the improvement of the economic situation, they were very satisfied with the status quo and felt that the completion date of the state-owned economy was an ideal social achievement, so they decided to promote it at all costs
But now it seems that the situation is not that simple.
What they mean is correct, but it is difficult to push it forward when it comes to actual implementation
The actual needs of people are limited to productivity, but the state-owned enterprises may not be able to meet the actual and exact needs of all people, which will inevitably lead to quite a few problems at the practical level.
How to solve it?
See?
Immersed in a false victory?
That would be a contradiction.
Officials bowed their heads and said nothing, but Lin Jingchun still had some minor grievances.
Lin Jingchun is open-minded on the issue of limiting state-owned enterprises. He neither insists on nor opposes it. He has always focused on the fact that the country has enough money, but he is really busy in other aspects.
Looking at Su Yonglin and the Ministry debate, he hasn’t spoken.
But at this final stage, he felt that he had something to say.
"Chairman, we don’t have to be state-owned for everything, don’t we spend too much money and make too little money before? Every department asks me for money. When I open my mouth, I dare not listen to digital money. I still have to give it to the state treasury. I have to move. Can I not make money? "
Lin Jingchun stared at Su Yonglin and complained, "Do I want to be a real Ministry of Finance and do some national policy things? Isn’t this forcing me to be a businessman to make money?"
Well, this problem is also a practical one.